We watched both Davis Ayer’s Suicide Squad and Cathy Yan’s Birds of Prey and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn to discuss everyone’s favorite Clown Princess of Crime! Does the male gaze matter or does everyone still treat her like she’s crazy? What did my girlfriend think of Jared Leto’s Joker, the representation of Black Canary, and the characterization of Cassandra Cain in the comics? Is something missing from the film or is it just her strong feelings either way that are missing? Find out! During Trailer Time, I prepare my girlfriend for Zack Snyder’s Justice League and explain why Disney didn’t sue HBO Max for infringing on their copyright for Thanos. In case you didn’t know, it’s because Darkseid is.
’Twas the day before Valentine’s Day when the podcasting girlfriends discussed the Kung Fu Panda trilogy! We go over Orientalism, first cinema experiences, Puss in Boots versus Dead Poets Society, how Glee can help you learn English better than any teacher, fatphobia, pear-shaped pandas, Jar Jar Binks and Drunken Fist wushu, Rebel Wilson, Fate: The Winx Saga casting, animating female anthropomorphic animals without boobs, my bullet point skills, Chosen One narratives, ableism, how little I remember of the live-action remake of Disney’s Mulan and its state worship, and the four musicals I actually like!
My girlfriend had somehow never seen Patty Jenkins’ Wonder Woman despite living on this planet as a person of the female variety, so what better occasion to get her caught up than the release of its sequel, Wonder Woman 1984? She fawns over Chris Pine, compares the plot to Tom Shadyac’s Bruce Almighty and explains her complicated relationship with glasses. I bring up CGI, fangirly characterization complaints and continuity issues. We also discuss Spider-Man’s religious beliefs, for some reason. #ReleaseTheFannyPackCut! During Trailer Time, we watch the second Red Band Trailer for Tim Miller’s Deadpool!
It’s my turn again! My lovely girlfriend Mijntje watched David F. Sandberg’s Shazam! along with me so I could prove to her that DC Films had a fun, funny, festive Christmas movie in its catalogue. Depressing, my ass. We cover the Fawcett Comics history briefly and without research, profess our love for the Marvel Family as well as the casting director, and talk about Stanley Tucci, for some reason. On this episode’s Trailer Time, we compare the Comic-Con First Look to the Bohemian Rhapsody trailer for David Ayer’s Suicide Squad!
We return with the fifth installment in the Jurassic Park franchise, J.A. Bayona’s Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom! In our second take on this movie, we decide whether to let nature take its course or save the dinosaurs, I wonder if Hollywood isn’t just an island, and Mom remembers my toy dinos fondly. Bryce Dallas Howard’s running on heels is scrutinized, Mom steals my jokes and we briefly mention the chapter on The Silence of the Lambs in my bachelor’s thesis because Ted Levine plays a dinosaur dentist in this one. We discuss the difference between fighting wars and fighting off an invasion and somehow drag in WWII and the actions of ICE under Trump. We plan Mom’s Hollywood career as an actress/screenwriter, she recalls a television interview with a Dutch author, and debate the importance of using language that doesn’t have a history of oppression attached to it.
After an unplanned hiatus, we return with a movie nobody has heard of: Lukas Dhont’s Girl! We discuss the casting controversy while I’m breathing heavily from running up and down a single flight of stairs before recording, Mom remembers the music video for Wrabel’s “The Village”, I start ranting about the writer-director in a monologue that will go down in this podcast’s history as the longest time I’ve gone on uninterrupted, and we go through every problematic scene, as well as the ones we found touching. The trailer this time is for Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck’s Captain Marvel, which we will eventually get around to in our journey through the MCU!
Back for another comic book movie, I lure Mom in with promises of Colin Firth without spoiling/warning that he violently kills dozens of people! In our episode on Matthew Vaughn’s Kingsman: The Secret Service we talk for a bit about my mom’s legs, she confuses the first scene for the second scene and vice versa, and I rely completely on what she tells me about Pygmalion; the Shaw play, not the myth, as there are decidedly fewer statues to fall in love with. Somehow, we briefly mention Donald Trump, because I’m sure he’ll love the media attention. I try to get to the bottom of what framing of violence is worse to my mother’s sensibilities, in order to gauge whether or not movies that question why, as a society, we enjoy violence as entertainment are less offensive to her – and therefore possible future episodes. For this episode’s Trailer Time, Mom gets to choose from the Aquaman and Shazam! Comic-Con trailers and picks the latter, which is a choice I approve of.
We make our triumphant return to form with a superhero film that requires me to explain the history of the genre in order to make Mom understand this wasn’t actually that mediocre for the time it was released: Bryan Singer’s X-Men! Having been on vacation to Israel, where we visited Yad Vashem, we get into our happiest episode yet, as we extensively discuss the Holocaust and when it is appropriate to use that as character motivation, especially in the case of a Jewish villain. We also discuss the problems surrounding the Mutant Registration Act and the possibility of facilitating prosecution by registration in general, a segment in which I confuse the Belgian and Dutch systems of distributing social security numbers; you’ll survive, I’m sure. There was also some confusion about whether or not Patrick Stewart was actually Ben Kingsley. As Mom tries to remember the name of Lara Croft, I show her a trailer for something she actually wants to watch, David Yates’ Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald.
We’re back with a movie that’s my own age! We explain where we’ve been for a month – the answers are disappointing, I assure you – and dive into Danny Boyle’s Trainspotting. We earned the Explicit rating on this one. Mom brags about her memory and recalls her high school students watching this wholly appropriate film about heroin, while I mistake the amount of boys in my elementary school for the amount of girls (trust me, it was relevant in the context of the episode) and forget everything she said to me while we were watching. I ask about the nineties and what the world was like when I was born, to which Mom responds by making self-deprecating jokes about achieving nothing with her life. Thankfully, she did make me and I made this podcast, so it was all worth it. We discuss music and Gulf Wars for a bit, because we never go quite off-track enough apparently. When we do get back to the film itself, I share some of the knowledge which paying college tuition for a course featuring this flick has granted me. That knowledge did not include the word “suppository”, however, or else I forgot all about it. There is also the obligatory scene-that-Mom-saw-differently, and oh boy, is it a good one this time. The trailer we watched was of course for Danny Boyle’s T2: Trainspotting and the outtakes include part of the first take on our opening for this episode with Mom talking into a microphone that wasn’t recognized by my computer (but she was loud enough to get picked up on mine).
Welcome back to your regularly scheduled episode where Effie is in charge! (Well, almost regularly scheduled.) Mom talks about our recording time for a bit, as well as those other Avengers you may have heard about, and her childhood Halloween dreams from before Halloween was a thing here. The word coiffure gets thrown around, so on behalf of Mom: please excuse her French. More apologies are also issued about her English – feel free to let her know she’s doing fine, by the way – as well as a “you’re welcome” for editing out whichever ones I can. The conversation also turns to the materials of Scarlet Johansson’s wardrobe in the movie, and not even the outfits you’re thinking of, before we tackle Chris Hemsworth’s abs and I make some Easter-related jokes. Representation of German people also somehow becomes a topic and I make some more good points, Mom admits. I also understood most of the references, so go me. In this episode’s Trailer Time we, of course, watch the second trailer for Avengers: Infinity War!
Disclaimer: There might be a slight echo in our voices since I’m still getting used to a two mic setup, but let me know if you noticed.